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1968


The following seminars were conducted based on the articles from this page:
  

 

 

Shahjahanpur, U.P.

Dated 4th January, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

Consultations

I have to consult with you on a few things. for that I have not yet consulted my Master because I give him trouble only when my efforts fail. Whether we should work in throwing out the idea of subtle existence in the beginning and, if so, in what way? As an example, in your case, I feel an imaginary cord from kantha chakra to nabhi. In it God's work is there. But it is throwing out something and that is being removed by one. My eyes are so trained that I do not want to see anything awkward in our abhyasis and with that idea I am working. Suppose I do not work, where will it go from the system? At this stage cleaning is not very necessary because actually there is no grossness but only a reflection of it which requires attention.

Awakening of Chakras

When an abhyasi proceeds rightly and reaches at least brahmanda mandal at that stage I take up in some cases and not in all cases, the work of awakening the hridya chakra and then atma chakra. Even then, I do not awaken the chakras fully because I fear very much. To touch the further chakras my heart does not allow, rather it checks one to take up the 3rd and 4th points and so on. In your case I have taken up two points 1st and 2nd only. Now divinity has taken this task to awaken the other chakras but not in full state. In other words the chakras which have been touched by me are in awakened state and hence God is not touching them.

Why does the heart not give signal to proceed further? Finally I will consult my Master after discussing with you when we meet in Madras. To save time it will be better if you write out our opinion and bring it to Madras so that I may start thinking on it just on your arrival there.

Respect to Appaji and love to children.

Yours,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur, U.P.

Dated 21st January, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

Layavastha in Brahman

I am so lucky to observe the very higher condition prevailing among our satsanghis. Really speaking you have given me experience and gave me food to think upon. On the night of the 18th instant at 9:45 P.M. when I was taking food, I found that your laya avastha in the Brahman commenced. I was taking food and at the same time observing your condition. After an hour i.e. about 11o'clock, I found that the work of nature as started was being done vigorously which I did not want. I was rather puzzled how to bring in the moderation. As I cannot touch His work, I, at last, prayed the Master and in a minute, the Master brought the condition to normalcy. Now I am satisfied that is going on as I want it. God has taken up your work but I feel my responsibility is till there. I have to watch so many things at higher levels. This is now your experience and it comes out of it that when the subtle idea of existence in subconscious mind goes out, absorbency in Brahman follows. Dr! how difficult it is to train systematically. I do not know how the others do specially when immediate help is necessary to the taught. I must say that hardly anyone will be so fated to get such cases of very high level. Congratulations!

.... I appreciated his affection admiring the satsanghis of Madras but added, "among abhyasis there are a few who want to purchase Spanish gram from the merchant dealing in cloth."

Love to children and respect to Appaji.

Yours,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur,U.P.

Dated 15th February, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

Layavastha in Brahman-Establishment

About your laya avastha in Brahma it is established to a great extent but I am hoping that rotation will commence again when what you have gained is complete. It is the first case for me at this time for observation and experience. There will be coming other cases also but after some time although, I am working on that line to speed up the progress of the satsanghis.

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Love to children and respect to Appaji.

Yours,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur,U.P.

Dated 29th February, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

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Transmissions effect thereof

There is a footnote at page two in Efficacy of Raja Yoga about the origin of human mind. Regarding your condition I have no words to express it. You have expressed your condition as paradoxical. Would you please elucidate a little to enable me to write on it. About the rotation as you felt below the navel I cannot explain it at present. I feel some power centred there. Since

I cannot touch your case I often meditate on it from the highest point of my approach. The nature has begun to change but it is yet to be revealed. I will write you when it comes to the standard in my view. You have complained about your transmission to others. Really it is not the complaint but the actual condition which goes deeper in the heart of abhyasi. I also feel like that transmission becomes so natural that sometimes it becomes difficult to feel it, so the preceptors feel that I have not transmitted. When Kasturi is available I sometimes asked her the nature and effectiveness of my transmission. I give you an example. When I was working in the Judges Court I gave a sitting to a Mohammedan friend of mine in the office itself. Now twenty years after he met with my fellow disciple and said that a sufi met him and said that somebody has transmitted you so well that its effect is still there. About a week ago my fellow disciple related this story tome.

Love to children and respect to Appaji.

Yours,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur, U.P.

Dated 22nd April, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

You were lucky to have a sitting from the Master at Allahabad. It was wholesome and elevating.

I do not transmit to you because now there is no need for it. I simply regulate and adjust the condition you are in. When the process is complete, I will inform you. I only guess what will be coming after this process is complete. But if I tell you further that will be a great temptation for you. I am waiting for that condition to come. I believe when the present is complete you will be able to know the secret of nature which I have not yet revealed to anyone. I feel the signs of that by your writings and studying your condition.

Respect to children and love to Appaji.

Yours,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur, U.P.

Dated 26th April, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

Layavastha Completion

Now I am coming to your case. The process of laya avastha is complete in a way. The thing started below the navel and completed its course on April 23rd, 1968 at 7 P.M. reaching into the central region. On April 24th, 1968 at 9:34 A.M. the volume has begun to increase. I am studying very deeply. There is no transmission on my part. Only my thought is there so really speaking I do not do any work. I simply wish that it may be regulated in this way and the force of the wish regularise it. Please write tome whether you feel some tension in the brain. If it is so whether it is mild or strong. Many a time in a day I have to watch its course. It is the Grace of my Master that the difficult task becomes so easy. When this process is complete I shall add this thing also in the second part of the Method of Training by your consultation so that nothing may be left there.

Preceptors to record experiences while training

I wish that all the preceptors of the Mission may write their experiences which they have while training others and how they have removed the defect which they have complained of. You have got so many cases and you have done wonders. Thanks to the Master.

Very recently I came to know the way of doing prayers for others but I have still to think much over it. One thing I write for which I am sure. One who has reached central region he must not pray by entering into it. One who can work in universal dynamo he must not work on any account by putting himself into it. But such personalities are very rare so I am writing this for the sake of knowledge. For the spiritual benefit a man can pray from the central region but not for worldly things. Why we should not pray from the central region that is yet to be studied. I shall write to you when it is studied.

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Loved to children and respect to Appaji.

Yours,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur, U.P.

My dear Varadachari,

Guru Dakshina

.... On 11th May, 1968 at 1:35 P.M. I found your condition coming to normalcy. it has now mostly come to normal. But I want that this stage may be so settled that I may find it almost unreadable and it is going to be such. At this stage I deserve dakshina that you should try to prepare at least a dozen like yourself and continue to help others spiritually.

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Love to children. Respect to Appaji.

Yours,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur, U.P.

Dated 9th June, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

Working in the Central Region

I am writing to you a case of my experience in connection with Saint Kasturi. She is in the first ring of Splendour, but I feel that there is some shadowy thing in it which hampers her progress. I am now writing its cause which I have already told her. I felt and she had admitted it that she has undue attachment (mamata) with her brothers, sisters and mother. She has now begun removing it. While working in the central region the preceptor, in order to correct it, should be as subtle as the state of the region is. It becomes a difficulty to the preceptor.

Love to children and respect to Appaji.

Yours,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur, U.P.

Dated 26th July, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

Janmashtami

Observance of fast during Shri Krishna Janmashtami is the order of my Master. The instructions were issued accordingly. Almost all the satsanghis in India used to observe fast on that specific day. Now this year by the permission of my Master I have withdrawn this order for North India alone. Our South Indian brothers will observe the fast as they used to do. The reason is that in spite of my continuously explaining to the North Indians that it is not the Utsava but religious rite, they have begun to think it to be Utsava. If it is also taken as Utsava then the importance of Basant Panchami Utsava will be lost. A few people of North India sometimes said that since they could not attend Basant Panchami Utsava they will attend the Shri Krishna Janmashtami Utsava... ...

I also frankly express today that I have been transmitting South India every time for the last ten years. The results are good but not according to my labour. The case may be that they are mostly dogmatic instead of Godmatic. To be more plain I should say that they have in mind the value of the grosser type of worship and one link is attached to God and the other to the devil. Thus they take milk but also take pickle after it. we have to give time to think over these difficulties. I do not know how long I will live to serve all of you but as long as I live I want to render best services causing excellent results. If I and you both succeed in making two dozens of people like yourself appointed in different corners of India then in twenty years the face of India will be changed and spirituality will reign throughout.

Love to children and respect to Appaji.

Yours affectionately,

Ram Chandra

 

Shahjahanpur, U.P.

Dated 24th October, 1968

My dear Varadachari,

My dear Varadachari,

Commitment

.... Work and work should be our principle because one cannot say when life will go. I am already engaged up to 31st October 68.

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Higher Attainments

I agree with your view that higher attainments need not be for preceptorship only, I loudly said almost in every centre the same thing. There are lot of abhyasis at Tirupati whom Provisional Permission can be given and that is due to your good work. ....

Individual Sittings

I do not take any step unless I consult you. Last time when we were at Hyderabad, you gave me very nice suggestion and I abide by it. That each one may get an individual sitting once a week. For that preceptors are needed. One preceptor does this work then each abhyasi will get one individual sitting in one year, because numbers are enormously increasing everywhere and specially when I am there. I am following your beautiful advice everywhere in the North and South. ....

Method of Training

I have gone through the lines written in the light of Shri Ramanuja's method. I agree but a good deal of preparation is necessary on the part of the abhyasi. I have also written a method done by myself in the second part of the 'Method of Training', which if correctly done automatically hits the point. There are so many ills in the self which can be only experienced and so far I have taken the man reaching the central region. Before it, it is the work of the abhyasi and in a way it is a preparation for the last touch of the Master, very rarely such cases come to us. It requires deep study. You might have remembered that in your case it was in very mild form yet it took me three years. The last touch I gave at Hyderabad. You know probably that at its last step there was an idea of only subtle existence which is removed altogether. Now you exist but you do not exist.

Now another topic starts. Really it is a new thing to me. You might have received the letter from Shri Lakshmi Narasimhan and you replied it wisely. Now I quote the sentence of Lakshmi Narasimhan as Shri Seshadri said to him, "Master has made a sankalpa to keep me tied in a knot (he found me enwrapped in a triangular barrier)." While Lakshmi Narasimhan was giving individual sitting to Tharakananda, he related his experience of the individual sitting to Seshadri. He gave his opinion, "Possibly, Master put up the triangular barrier to protect him."

Now in the previous sentence the word sankalpa is used, now he has asked me about my opinion. Keeping in view the respect of Shri Seshadri I will have to reply it. About two or three weeks ago, I was studying the 'self' of Mr. Seshadri. Now here is a clue to understand it. It shows that the idea of self-importance is also there. To bring the 'self' in the right form is a very difficult job. To turn it to Divinity at a glance is very easy. But it is not permissible because danger is there.

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Yatra

It is quite possible that after completing the yatra for the second time up to brahmanda mandal, I may take up the heart again. But I am not very definite to take it up. It is to be decided afterwards.

Method of Working in Central Region

Dr. Kuppuswamy has written to me for the crossing of the rings. Now you may do it so that you may add to your experience in this higher state of things as well. I already brought the power to normalcy and the excitement is over. This was necessary before we start the working on rings I tell you the way which experience has taught me. Transmission is not needed to bring the power to normalcy in the central region. Only the thought that the power is coming to normalcy is a proper way.

Love to children and respect to Appaji.

Yours affectionately,

Ram Chandra